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Regarding athism, if you discount the existence of a god of any kind, you can look to the existence amongst us of prophets, like Jesus and Mohammed, who, unlike the rest of us, saw the world in need of guidance and provided it. The ancient Jews gave us the Ten Commandments, Mohammed gave his followers the Quran, both intended to help humans to manage the world in which they lived. Joseph Smith produced the Book of Mormons. Take away the references to God and you have six commandments that the ancient Jews bequeathed to us, that govern society in the best interests of all. Thou shall honour your parents, shall not steal, shall not commit adultery, shall not commit murder, shall not covet thy neighbours wife, nor his goods. I think Dawkins has been got at in the same way David Attenborough has been got at. The Christian Church considers itself a part of the apparatus of society and appeals to important people not to rock the boat.

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